Financial Doom – you are witnessing the fall of an empire.

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  • #72968
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    The debt hit $19 trillion…. Very bad.

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    If somehow Donald Trump gets elected i’m moving to Canada ASAP.

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    Trump is your only hope.

    Both democrats and republicans have spent us into a hole. Trump is annoying, arrogant, nasty… But I want that motherfucker on my side. Worst case is Sanders, but Hillary, Cruz,Bush Rubio are all the same, they work for the top .1%, that is where their money comes from.

    Sanders is an idiot, never worked a day in his life. Trump is good because he really isn’t a conservative, he is in the middle. That is what we need.

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    I don’t like any of the options.. at all.. but having the “you’re fired” guy as president? Come on.

    Schwarzenegger governor.. Trump president.. Mel Gibson should head up the military side of things.. and economically we should just have my neighbor handle that.. he owns a small convenience store and he’s really good with money.

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    If you don’t think that the puppet named Donald Trump doesn’t have corporate interests at mind, you’re nuts. He pays for his own campaign.. sure.. but there is NO chance in hell he’s in it for “the people”.

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    I may be nuts… But we have not had a decent president in many, many decades. All these presidents have spent money they don’t have on things they have not justified.

    Bill Clinton repealed Glass-Stegal and signed NAFTA. Both hurt America tremendously. Bush 2 and Colin Powell lied about WMD in Iraq, look that up. All those people died or were crippled over a lie. Obama has been a disaster from top to bottom except for Cuba. I like his thoughts on Cuba.

    Trump is a loudmouth, but I think he will be the most honest president since Jimmy Carter. JC was a terrible president, but a very good man. I wish he was my uncle.

    To survive politics and move up you have to be dirty and owe many, many favors. Trump, may owe favors, but to a different set of people.

    I’m voting third party if Trump doesn’t get the nomination.

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    I like Trump best out of the dismal field.

    The only thing that scares me is his unrefined personality, which is a blessing and a curse. Sure, when you’re the powerful guy with all the money in a deal, you can be as aggressive as you want to force a deal and lawyer your way out of everything. When it comes to world affairs, we no longer are the big player. Some of the egotistical leaders that are out there these days won’t cave to Trump because he’s Trump. They will go against him just because….. And answer him with missiles.

    We sure could use a businessman that is proven instead of a politician, since our country is in deep shit financially. It’s about time something else is given a chance. We can’t keep going the way it is.

    If he fails, kick him to the curb.

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    If he fails, kick him to the curb.

    That doesn’t happen. Ie. Bush

    “mission accomplished”

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    I just can’t help thinking different masks on the same face, run by the same machine and guided by the hidden hand.

    When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will know peace...

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    When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will know peace...

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    @74demon

    @jules

    My father used to say ‘re-elect nobody’, the problem with career politicians is that they get trained by other career politicians. It is hard to find a different path and make changes if you’ve been trained in traditional thought. A businessman will run the government different. Maybe no better, but different. We just know putting a career politician in will be more of the same.

    That is why I like Carson and Trump ( Fiorino too, but she is out). Carson will leave soon, then I am behind Trump. Although Trump has been my first choice, Carson and Fiorino would have worked for me.

    Cris Christie backed Trump today… That is my guess for the Ticket, Trump/Christie. Since I’m from New York, I don’t find them annoying at all, but I can see that some people out there may not like it… fuck them.

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    @fishfryer

    Find them annoying? Not in the least. Hillary makes my ears bleed, but not because she is from New York.

    Christe was my hope from way back before all this really started. He seems like a realistic, stand up guy.

    It’s going to be an epic election. Hillary is the model establishment puppet, with Trump being the anti-politician. I can’t wait to see Hillary struggle going off script when debating Trump and his off the cuff antics.

    We will see which extreme the country “chooses” to go.

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    Someone told me today that we need a good businessman as a president. Well he has gone bankrupt 4 times.. and what about Trump Shuttle Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Magazine, Trump World Magazine, Go Trump Travel Website, Trump Steaks (sold at Sharper Image).. oh and he started Trump Mortgage company in 2006.. great timing. Sellout that only cares about money. Super awesome business man.

    The same person also posted on their Facebook supporting Trump because he has “solid values and sticks to what he believes”.. really?.. the puppet so far has flip-flopped and been completely inconsistent.. he has said that he is pro-choice and pro-life, for and against assault weapon bans, he has been in favor of bringing in syrian refugees as well as deporting them out of the country.

    I don’t care who is President.. but I will vote for whoever is against him.

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    I’m voting for that motherfuvking Ross Perot!

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    If he’s not Trump.. i’m in. Fucking puppet can’t make up his mind on any issue.. just keeps saying we have them.

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    Nobody is talking real details yet.

    Since the country is headed for bankruptcy, maybe it’s a good thing to have someone in charge that has been there before with a few business and has had much success with others. At least his business dealings were with his own money. Obama didn’t file himself, but did give away trillions of our money to failing businesses of donors and connected friends so they can fold their companies and run off with millions.

    Hillary doesn’t have a business, so she has never been at the mercy of the rocky economy. She has been living off the public for many years. Her solution to our debt is to spend more of our money and make it bigger. That’s scary.

    Trump is not the best person to save our nation, but he is the best of the dismal crowd we have to choose from. And that really does suck….

    We cannot continue down the road we are on. I fear that if anyone else gets the job, it will be more of the same for sure.

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    Trump doesn’t use his own money anyway.. accepted MILLIONS in donations through his website and he has corporate business higher-ups in his back pocket.. on call. At that level, it’s impossible not to.. but shouldn’t be leading the “free world”.

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    At least it’s not my money.

    Investors and the corporate world know the risks.

    We will wait and see when the real debates start and empty promises are made who will emerge as the better candidate.

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    They all suck..

    I thought this was funny on the news feed tonight:

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    When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will know peace...

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    @admin I understand your dislike of Republicans given where you are from and your ethnicity. It is bred into you. The truth is, you are blinded by your background. You think I’m wrong, but trust me on this, I’m not. Open your mind a little bit, take a step back and think about what trump says he will do…

    Build a wall, how can that be bad?
    Re-structure trade deals
    Re-structure agreements where we fight other people’s wars for them.
    Temporary ban on Muslims… That one is shaky, but look at Europe and their problems with refugees from Syria.

    Again, your demographic is fiercely liberal, but the choices on your side is a lunatic socialist and a fucking criminal that ruins every thing she touches. To me, pretty easy choice.

    As far as business failures, nobody bats 100% without a shitload of luck. With risks come failures, however great rewards can also happen.

    Truthfully, if you overlap Trump and the other candidates, he matches up with Sanders very closely, they differ on a few things, mainly how we can afford stuff. But trump is actually in the middle, neither republican or democrat.

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    I don’t want a wall. This country was built on a saying.. “bring me your poor.. etc”.. we’re supposed to be a melting pot.. i’m not native american.. my family came from Europe and we were allowed in. Everyone should be.. that’s what makes America what it is and why people all over the world want to live here. Blocking our borders isn’t the right idea.

    Blocking muslims isn’t a good idea either. Temp or long term. ALL ISIS MEMBERS WOULD HAVE TO DO IS LIE ABOUT THEIR RELIGION and/or find the loophole to get in. Are you going to block everyone with tan skin when it doesn’t work? We should block the mexicans too, they build our infrastructure at 1/2 the cost of American labor, twice as fast. Sounds terrible. We as americans are far too entitled, when we are all immigrants.

    He also never says exactly what he is going to do.. he just says he will do it. I call bullshit. A lot of Americans blindly trusted Bush Jr, TWICE.. and it put us back 20+ years across the board. Bush played the game Risk on a global basis and lost. Our children will pay the price for his incompetence.. we don’t need a louder Bush that is already hated around the world. UK debating to close their borders to him. Back and forth with the Pope? You may not like Obama or what has done, but as least he is a presentable person who can speak to foreign representatives without making the US look like a laughing stock.

    I won’t cast my vote for Hillary, Sanders, Rubio or whoever else because of their beliefs.. it’s because I know that there is absolutely ZERO chance that we come out of a Trump Presidency better than we did before. Zero percent. He is a corporate puppet and an actor.. he’s looking after himself, his pockets, his corporate interests, his friends, etc. Saying whatever gets a crowd reaction, over and over again, without actually SAYING ANYTHING meaningful (plans, policies, etc).

    President Trump.. leader of the free world.. If you told people that 10 years ago they would laugh you out of the room. People want change so they lean towards the mass marketing bullshit for “change”.. nothing is going to change with a lunatic actor at the helm.

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    Either way, regardless of what puppet is put in that position, we won’t see REAL change anytime soon. We need to get rid of the 60-80 year olds in government positions and get fresh younger blood in there. Outdated and inadequate policies and absolute retards in the presidential position have led us to where we are today. We don’t need another Bush.. with a bigger mouth.. and a smaller brain.

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    Nobody is against immigration, only ILLEGAL immigration. Activists are always blurring the line between them to get blind support for their cause. We are a nation that was founded on “bring us your poor….” but only in accordance with immigration laws. People can’t just come here unchecked in violation of laws that we set for the good of our nation just because they are poor. There is a process that EVERYONE must follow, and some seem to think that they don’t need to follow the laws and get in line behind everyone who does. It’s not racist to have border and want to know who is crossing it.

    I live a stone’s throw from the Mexican border. It’s a little over an hour’s ride. I’m sure that up in the north, illegal immigration is more of an idea than a reality. But for me, it’s real. We have over half of the 16 million that are here, including some very violent gang types and drug running for the cartels. It’s a very large burden on an already suffering economy. The dems want the government dependents and the reps want low wages. Socialism can’t be good and last I recall, importing people for cheap labor didn’t work out so well. Illegal immigration will not be controlled by either party, so we are fucked either way. Since Trump is not really with either party, there is a chance he may put a dent into that problem that I am forced to live with. Really though, it’s all talk. It always is….

    We are at war right now. Why not put a halt to people coming here from areas of the planet that are trying to kill us every chance they get? I know most are peaceful people that mean us no harm but until we can find a sure way to weed them out from the one’s who are, they just will have to wait. I don’t have a problem with that.

    Your’re right, we need change and it won’t happen soon. We need to start sometime though. At least Trump will stir the pot if nothing else.

    He is a corporate puppet and an actor.. heโ€™s looking after himself, his pockets, his corporate interests, his friends, etc.
    Maybe. Also sounds like Hillary (and every other politician) to me.

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    Bump.

    I thought it about time ๐Ÿ˜€

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    Has everyone seen the emails from Wikileaks where Hillary knew that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the ones funding ISIS? Also note that recently the 9/11 report had 28 pages of documents recently released that pointed to some people in the Saudi government had supported al quada. This is really interesting, it goes back to the U.S. will do anything to maintain control in the Middle East, even if it means working with ‘terrorists’.

    I really think the Wikileaks’s efforts to spread the truth against the current administration was what finally enough negatives to hand Trump the Presidency.

    The question now is, does Trump continue this silly Syrian war? Syria is just a pipeline pathway with Russia going one way and Saudi/Qatar wanting to go the other.

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    All puppets at the end of the day, controlled by the hidden hand…

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