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    The chain guard from JDA Customs arrived yesterday – my plan for after work is to polish up the chain adjusters a little bit, and get the chain guard on and rear wheel re-installed, and maybe get back to the gearbox.

    The anodizing is good – that little smear on the finish was due to handling it with grubby mitts!

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    After work yesterday, I spent a little time cleaning up the chain adjusters – I didn’t polish them fully, just put a little more brightness by sanding down to 1500-grit.

    After this, I got the rear wheel and brakes remounted, and got the new chain guard installed – I had to hit the hardware store, as mounting hardware was not included with the part, and it cannot employ the same screws used for the OEM hugger… the pictures aren’t very good, as it was getting dark, but it gives you some idea.

    In the 2nd and 3rd pictures, the light I was shining in order to get a pic that was viewable at all, makes it look like the match between the anodizing and powder-coating are quite far off, but the truth is, it really does look VERY close, almost perfect – if you look toward the front mount for the chain guard, you can see what I mean, as it looks extremely close.

    If/when the anodizing fades, or gets marked up enough to make it a deal-breaker, I will probably just have it powder-coated in the same satin black, but it is just fine for now…. also, with the changes made to the swing arm and the new chain guard, the setup is just over 3/4 lb. lighter.

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    I wish I had gotten more done this weekend, but with World Cup games, FIM Superbike/Supersport races, and AMA Pro Races, it was already going to be a battle for time… then, news of Jason’s passing Sunday morning made me want to do nothing at all, but I had to get something done, as I’m racing this next weekend.

    I put a healthy patch on the inside, to repair the damage to the bodywork…

    …and just did a little cover up with touch-up paint on the outside – it does not look great, but this is the best it can be without repainting the whole piece, which is not going to happen for such a small blemish.

    Moving on to the gearbox – I got the clutch assembly removed.

    Now the shift arm can be withdrawn – notice there is a piece of card-stock sitting in the case – this is to prevent small parts from falling into the oil sump (like the thrust washer that’s about to come off the shaft)… no need having to pull the oil pan, and replace that gasket as well.

    Here is a close-up of the OEM detent arm and shift spring…

    … and a comparison of the OEM parts, to the new Factory Pro parts.

    I find it easier to put the new spring in place, then with the bolt through the new detent arm and washer, start threading it into the case, positioning the arm in the neutral dip on the shift star while keeping the spring hooked on the arm, and tightening the bolt – it’s important to make sure the larger OD boss, that proceeds the threads on the bolt, is able to sit inside the ID of the detent arm, rather than press on it, so that the arm is oriented correctly… this takes some work, but it’s obvious when it’s not right, as the arm will be cock-eyed, and the flange on the bolt will not sit flush with the arm.

    Old gasket material cleaned off of the case, and clutch re-installed, with new springs and plates:

    Following this, all I had time to do was re-install the cover with a new gasket, torque the bolts, refill the oil, and start it up, to make sure there were no sounds that shouldn’t be.
    I found that once you put it in first, even with the lever pulled in, the clutch engages, and the rear wheel spins… I expected this, as the cable has been adjusted for proper pull as the OEM clutch wore down, and will now need to be taken out some.

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    Time to get caught up with the last week’s events…

    So I buttoned the cases back up, threw a mirror on the bike & zip-tied my current plate on the rear, and took it for a few passes around the neighborhood, race slicks and all, to see how things felt.

    I had experienced some fueling issues in the pilot range, at round 1, and though I wasn’t 100% certain of whether the issue was due to being overly lean or overly rich, I was leaning toward it being a bit rich.
    But, after toying around with the fuel screws, running the bike at idle, initiating large throttle inputs off idle, riding it a few loops around my neighborhood, and repeating until I was satisfied, I do believe I might have ended up with the same setting as, or very close to, what I had before… but now it’s just about perfect.
    I’m going to chalk up the issues at Putnam, to the increased elevation, and the cooler temperatures for that round.

    Regarding the shift kit… fanTASTIC!! The shift action is incredible, and I’m very glad I made this change while I was in that part of the bike, working on the clutch. Later at the track, I still caught a couple of false neutrals, but I realize that: A) These things DO just simply happen from time to time, due to not getting a thorough engagement for whatever reason, and, B) it will likely get better as I simply get used to the change in how the lever feels.

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    Finish Of Race-Prep

    Some of you may remember that my Shorai battery bit the dust during round 1 at Putnam Park, and during my prepping the bike for last weekend’s round at Gateway Motorsports Park, I found the reason – my OEM R/R finally failed, at a little over 32,000 miles… it was sending almost 18 volts to the battery! :-? 8-O

    After sorting out the fueling issue in the pilot circuit, putting the bike back together, and washing it, we loaded everything up and headed for the track.
    I got to GMP Friday afternoon, and helped to deploy the air fence, then got registered, went through tech, and set up in the paddock.

    I had replaced the battery with a temporary 4-cell Alien Motion unit, but at the track, before the first session, I upgraded to the 8-cell version, so I’d be able to better support the total-loss system.

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    Race Weekend

    Saturday

    Most of Saturday was spent working with control riders and fast racers, getting to know the track, but the 3 sessions where I was no longer tagging on the back of someone, were as follows:

    1) Average lap time of 1:31.547 with a fastest lap of 1:28.415
    2) Average lap time of 1:30.782 with a fastest lap of 1:27.897
    3) Average lap time of 1:27.753 with a fastest lap of 1:26.843

    Sunday

    Sunday was a struggle between excitement, and extreme sadness, as in the race before mine, a rider lost his life.
    I ran 3 sessions, but skipped the two sessions in the afternoon, before my race, partially to rest a bit, but mostly to absorb what had just happened.
    My three Sunday sessions were as follows:

    1) Average lap time of 1:26.898 with a fastest lap of 1:25.717
    2) Average lap time of 1:24.361 with a fastest lap of 1:21.235
    3) Average lap time of 1:24.860 with a fastest lap of 1:21.837

    I was a little slower in the race, which I kind of expected, as I was quite shaken up with the loss of a fellow racer – my race had an average lap time of 1:24.485 with a fastest lap of 1:22.632 – this race included one brief grass-tracking excursion at the exit of 6B.

    These are not great, or even good lap times, really, but it’s a baseline for improvement at a track I’ve never seen before.

    The super fast guys at this track are running 1:11’s to 1:13’s, and sometimes dipping under the 1:10’s, but as you can imagine, this is in the fastest class, with guys ALL on much newer, faster, and lighter equipment, and with many weekends at this track.

    The winner of my Sunday race was running in the 1:14’s to 1:15’s… he was running a 2013 BMW S1000RR! I’m just doing what I can with this old beast!

    I was very happy with the improvement to the shift action, and though I experienced some clutch slippage the first times I was running hard down the straight, once I put a little slack back in the lever, the EBC Kevlar clutch was superb, and felt great when I launched it in my race.

    The Dunlop slicks were fantastic – good feel, and no grip issues whatsoever.

    So it was a successful weekend for me, all told, as I had no mechanical problems, no crashes, got to know the track a little bit, and steadily got faster in the practice sessions – I’ll be back at this track in August, and HPT is up next, the weekend of July 11th – 12th.

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    Sounds like a blast! Btw. You still owe me some race footage… Just sayin. :grin: I wanna see this beast in action!

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    @CBR-F2 said:
    Sounds like a blast! Btw. You still owe me some race footage… Just sayin. :grin: I wanna see this beast in action!

    Derek, you ship me a GoPro (or the like) with mounting, and I’ll get you all the footage you want! But, as it stands right now, it’s going to be a major struggle to finish the whole season, so pictures and video will not likely happen this year. :-?

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    A Plea For Help With Racing Effort

    Well, I’m at a point in this season where I fear I might have to skip another round, due to finances, which I really don’t want to do, as you can imagine.

    It’s a little bit crazy, I know, but last July, I even terminated my health insurance coverage, so I could free up some more money, but thanks to our current state of national affairs, that is no longer an option… which is honestly probably for the best.

    Now I know I’m not the only one who’s limited financially, especially among others that invest so much in their bikes, whether just for fun and bling factor, or for track days and racing, but in the event that anybody would be willing to help out with my racing fund, I just wanted to throw this out there.

    On my racing page, I have a donation link… if anyone would be interested in helping out, anything would be appreciated, whether it was 5 bucks, or even just one little ole’ lonely dollar!! :-o

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    George, if you find this post to be inappropriate, or is in violation of the forum rules, please advise, and I will immediately edit the post.

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    I would donate if I wasn’t part of the “financially limited” group at the moment. Love seeing your updates and track pictures.. makes me want to ride. Good luck buddy..

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    It ain’t no thing @admin, I’m gonna see it through, one way or another… which hopefully does not involve (getting caught) knocking over a liquor store!! :mrgreen: :bigsmile:

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    Round 4 Race Report

    Round 4 is done, and the bike performed phenomenally at HPT!

    Saturday

    Both days were rough, Saturday being the worst, due to sleep-deprivation courtesy of some extremely noisy guests at my hotel.

    As a result of the exhaustion, I skipped a lot of practice sessions, but in my very first session on Saturday, I went almost 7 seconds faster than my best known time at the same track from 2 years before… I’m guessing this is just due to momentum from previous races this season.
    I only had one other similar lap time on Saturday, and one that was 8/10 or so slower, in Saturday’s race.
    Honestly, I was just trying to get through the day, and run my race without incident, and in addition to being exhausted so early on, my rear slick was getting quite knackered on the left side, so I was concerned about that as well.

    When I got off the bike after race 1, I felt like I had just trekked across a desert for several days, with no food or water… or got hit by a truck, or something like that.
    It was hot out, and humid, but it only got to 91º which was preferable to the forecasted 97º, and at times there was a bit of a breeze, which was nice.

    Sunday

    I got a little bit more sleep Saturday night, but even after getting up, I decided to take it easy at the hotel, and pretty much skip all the morning practice sessions.
    It was raining, and I was kind of excited to throw on the wets, especially since my rear slick was toast, but before I got to the track, the rain had stopped, and a dry line was well formed by the time I actually got out on track.
    So, I picked up a set of D211GPAs, which are Dunlop DOT race tires, basically the same as what’s used for the AMA Daytona Sportbike and Supersport classes.

    By the time I spooned on the tires, got them warmed up, and at proper pressure, it was lunch break – there were three afternoon sessions before my race, and I decided to only do one of those, so I could have plenty of energy for the race, but get to know the new tires a wee bit.
    During that session, I felt really good, and was overtaking what seemed like everybody – something was different, and I was taking so many sections much faster than before, braking later out of the longer chutes, going much hotter into the first turn, etc.
    Just being more rested allowed me to not just go out and “do laps”, but rather to go out and work on doing laps faster – something I really couldn’t focus on the day before.

    None of my times from that session were faster than Saturday, but this didn’t surprise me, when I thought about it, as this time I was getting held up at what seemed like every turn of every lap, while trying to find places to pass.

    Race time came, and I started feeling a little weary, but by the time I made my way toward the grid, I forgot all about it.

    I had a good race, and am anxious to see my times for that race, since it felt like I was going much faster, but was not having to fight my way around a lot of “session” riders.
    By the time I packed everything up, they had pulled the time sheets, and the staff were already heading back to the race org’s headquarters… the times still have not been posted on the site, so I’m anxiously awaiting this!

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    At last… finally… I’ve begun work on the total-loss system for the race bike!

    I picked up an extra flywheel/rotor, a while back, so I could plan the job, and execute part of it, before even pulling the stator cover.

    After drilling out the dowels that are part of the rotor, and pressed into the flywheel, I heated the rotor and knocked the flywheel out of the rotor assembly.

    This will reduce the rotating mass at the end of the crank by over 2 lb.

    Next it was time to remove the mounted flywheel/rotor, mount the starting clutch components to the new standalone flywheel, and install it on the bike.
    I searched high and low in my town, and a M20 bolt with the right thread pitch could not be found, so I decided to try the job with a gear puller.

    In order for the center of the gear puller to have a solid base for applying pressure, without risking damage to the threads in the end of the crank, I put a divet in the end of a bolt, for the pointed end of the gear puller to sit in…

    … and put it through the flywheel and into the end of the crank.

    I mounted the gear puller and began to attempt to remove the flywheel/rotor – I moved the assembly out about 1/2 inch, and then the rotor begin to fold in under the pressure of the pullers claws, so I will have to hold off on getting this part of the job done, until I can source the appropriate bolt for removing it correctly.

    I went ahead and pulled the other items that will be deleted, i.e., the R/R and it’s associated harness and mounting hardware, and the stator, along with it’s harness to the junction box, and the hardware that secures it to the cover.
    I’ll update again when I wrap this up.

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    Fastenal ordered me the bolt I needed for removing the flywheel, and I picked it up during my lunch hour.

    Also, I finally pulled the trigger on an action cam, for onboard footage… this should be delivered by the time I get home from work today! :mrgreen:

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    Oh?! Got tired of me harassing ya and waiting for me to get you one!!! :wink:

    Can’t wait to see the footage!!! :gocrazy:

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    Footage? Crap, Derek, I still need you to buy the MicroSD card… you can’t get off that easy!! :mrgreen: :bigsmile:

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    The bolt from Fastenal worked perfectly for removing the old flywheel/rotor, as expected…

    …and I’ve got the replacement assembled with the starter clutch and gear, and ready to go on – my plan is to get this installed Saturday morning, and get the bike buttoned back up and ready to run.

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    The new, lighter flywheel is installed…

    …and the stator cover is re-mounted, with a new gasket.
    You can see the cut-off stator harness (courtesy of @BamBam… thanks Darrin!), and just below the fuel petcock knob, you can see the smart charger connector for the new 8-cell race battery, which will now be employed between sessions – just another little thing to connect, in addition to putting on the tire warmers.

    So at last, the total-loss system is implemented – no rotor, stator, or reg/rec, but yet it starts and runs… magic! :mouthopen: :mrgreen:

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    Phenomenal thread! Would love to see this animal in action!

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    Thanks @emcue, what part of the world do you live in?

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    @jnsracing, Massachusetts…up in the east coast

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    Well, that’s too far to come to a race, as the farthest Northeast I ever am, is near Indianapolis, but hopefully I’ll get some decent footage with the new cam… if Derek would have just bought me a damn GoPro, like he was supposed to, I would KNOW the videos would turn out nice!! :bigsmile: :mrgreen: :rotfl:

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    Yea def too far lol! But I would love see it on a video, eventho I know videos don’t always capture all of it’s essence.

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    I wont tell anyone you have a 900RR part on that F2…Hahaa JJ

    I love this thread , You are the go to guy for F2 info around here.

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    Glad you enjoy checking things out, and it’s OK, there are other 900RR parts present!

    I’ll be updating again, following this weekend’s racing… wish me luck! :mrgreen:

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    August Race Weekend at GMP

    An update for the August Gateway round is long overdue… it was a frustrating weekend, with about 15% riding, and 85% wrenching. :-x

    The entire area was just a big bowl of soup! :-? It was sprinkling as we arrived, though it was dry while we set up the track, and unloaded the bike, but then on the way to the hotel from the track it started raining again, and that pretty much continued until late Sunday afternoon.

    So, the rain tires went on, and I was able to run 2 sessions in the wet, before the problems began.
    Simply put, the bike just started to run horribly, but last month at HPT, it screamed, so what’s different? Total-loss system is one thing different, but after the issues began, I checked voltage, and that race battery was still showing 13 volts after a 20 minute practice session – the other thing that was different? Water, lots of it, and very high humidity, which continued to rise all weekend.

    I spent a great deal of time taking things apart and diagnosing systems, and suffice it to say, that part of the issue was that some electrics got wet. Once I resolved that, it did run better, but still not the way it should, so I am chalking it up to fueling issues due to the mega-high humidity… I’m nearly certain this was the problem, as it was running like it was really rich.

    So I put everything back together and ran a few laps in one of the last sessions before my race, which is where I learned it was running a little better, but still lacking power, and struggled to hit redline.
    Since it was a slim field, and I didn’t have time to do anything more, not to mention I didn’t have any smaller jets with me anyway, I decided to just run the race.

    It had finally stopped raining, so I had to change back to dry race tires – the track was still damp, it was way too dry for wets. I won the race, but I was so disappointed, since one of my goals was to see how well I could improve my lap times on my second visit to this track, and I didn’t have a chance to do it.

    My fastest time in the race was 4 seconds slower than my fastest lap on my last visit, and this thing was running really slow… it would have been exciting to see what could havebeen, but it wasn’t to be.

    Another round at HPT is next, in a couple of weeks time.

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    @JNSRacing said:
    Sunday

    I got a little bit more sleep Saturday night, but even after getting up, I decided to take it easy at the hotel, and pretty much skip all the morning practice sessions.
    It was raining, and I was kind of excited to throw on the wets, especially since my rear slick was toast, but before I got to the track, the rain had stopped, and a dry line was well formed by the time I actually got out on track.
    So, I picked up a set of D211GPAs, which are Dunlop DOT race tires, basically the same as what’s used for the AMA Daytona Sportbike and Supersport classes.

    By the time I spooned on the tires, got them warmed up, and at proper pressure, it was lunch break – there were three afternoon sessions before my race, and I decided to only do one of those, so I could have plenty of energy for the race, but get to know the new tires a wee bit.
    During that session, I felt really good, and was overtaking what seemed like everybody – something was different, and I was taking so many sections much faster than before, braking later out of the longer chutes, going much hotter into the first turn, etc.
    Just being more rested allowed me to not just go out and “do laps”, but rather to go out and work on doing laps faster – something I really couldn’t focus on the day before.

    None of my times from that session were faster than Saturday, but this didn’t surprise me, when I thought about it, as this time I was getting held up at what seemed like every turn of every lap, while trying to find places to pass.

    Race time came, and I started feeling a little weary, but by the time I made my way toward the grid, I forgot all about it.

    I had a good race, and am anxious to see my times for that race, since it felt like I was going much faster, but was not having to fight my way around a lot of “session” riders.
    By the time I packed everything up, they had pulled the time sheets, and the staff were already heading back to the race org’s headquarters… the times still have not been posted on the site, so I’m anxiously awaiting this!

    The above was something I posted in the middle of July, following the last race weekend I was at HPT, which was the round before last.
    I finally got a printing of the lap times from the 2nd race, on Sunday, and I was indeed right about going faster during that race.

    I ran 6 laps under my previous best lap, three of which were 1 1/2 seconds faster, and one was almost 2 1/2 seconds faster… this is where I’m going again, next weekend, and I hope I can go faster yet. :wink:

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    I’m officially a Cycle Gear supported racer, and I just got my packet last week, so I got the bike branded the bike with Cycle Gear/Cycle Gear Racing logos.

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    Congrats!!! :wow: That is awesome!

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    Congratulations @jnsracing!

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